VpFREE2.com is one of the most valuable weapons in a video poker player's arsenal. The site plays host to game listings at every major (and minor) casino in the world, so you can easily find 100%+ opportunities and take advantage of them. I am a 5th generation family farmer from West-Central Minnesota. The recent interest in food, combined with a large amount of 'misinformation' has driven me to start this channel. Give our Las Vegas slots a spin! Play twin river casino. We have more than 1,100 ticket-in, ticket-out slots, video poker and video machines, including traditional games like Double Double Bonus, Bonus Poker, and Deuces Wild.
For the Majestic Star 1 and 2, which I monitor, 13-4-3 bonus deuces does appear a number of times in the vpfree2 listings because Atomic Fever, Dice Fever and Double Super Times Pay versions are all over 99%.
Progressives are an interesting issue. The Majestic Star has a $1 progressive with the best base game at 98.12% (9-6 TDB). Because the feed rate is 1% this bank is often over 99% so it is listed. The 25c progressive is similar but the feed rate is 0.8% with the best base game at 97.4% (8-5 BP Dlx). Usually this game is under 99% so I do not list it but I have played it at just over the 100% level.
As to all the new unusual games, THANK YOU Wizard and Gary Koehler and everybody else for all the help analyzing those games.
I still have not got a clue about 'Split Card' video poker.
I strongly disagree.
VPFree2 is run by volunteers. To do a good job of monitoring--- even limiting yourself to 98% or 99% games --- requires a very large amount of knowledge. Making sure you know every pay schedule for every game multiplies the knowledge needed several fold. And do you consider nickel single line different from nickel Triple Play?
I would be qualified to monitor a casino for over-99% games --- not that I'm ever going to volunteer --- although doing a perfect job would be very difficult. I am nowhere near qualified enough to know which nickel deuces wild game returns 96.3% which would make it reportable because the other nickel deuces wild games there only return 96.1%.
Especially if you include all of the new variations --- WOO website lists maybe 200 video poker games --- for each denom. Many of those games come in dozens of game types (i.e. JoB, BP, DB, DDB, TDB, etc.), each with their own variety of pay schedules within that game type. That is MULTIPLE THOUSANDS of different games+types and several have five or six different pay schedules. And you have to know them ALL because in any given casino a 94.3% game might be the best for a particular denomination.
On some All Star Poker machines, with separate tabs for perhaps 15 different game types (such as Ultimate X, or Quick Quads, or Multi Strike, or Trade Up Poker, or Ten Play, or Super Times Pay, or Double Super Times Pay, or blah blah blah. Each of these tabs offers several games for each denom. All told, maybe 300 different games ON ONE MACHINE. If you're knowledgeable about video poker, it's very possible to quickly conclude that all of these are less than 99%. If you have to record all 300 of them, and compare each one with other machines around the casino, you're talking about a BIG, BIG task.
Even if he took all his notes with him, I suggest Shack would have a devil of a time listing the returns of the best return for every game type for every denom for a large casino. List of horse betting sites. And even if someone like Shack COULD perform that task, it's an unpaid position and things change and no matter how conscientiously you do the job, somebody will want more.
Not to mention that if you're spending that many hours checking machines and recording results, your actions will be noticed and several casinos will have security run you off for this. With maybe a little backrooming thrown in along the way for good measure. Conceivably a player could lose his welcome at a casino for providing a free service to a bunch of people he's never met, never going to meet, and who will be dissatisfied with whatever he comes up with.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
Vpfree2.com
Vpfree2 Wynn
IMO VPfree should go away.
In my case I get to be in Vegas for maybe 80 hours at a time at most. I typically play -EV games ( I believe I am lifetime ahead at real poker even though the casino makes money on the games I play in ) but at least with VP Free I can allocate most of my video poker time where I have more of a fighting chance. I'm sure for pros having more information available to the public is annoying but if it causes some players to go to places they wouldn't otherwise visit to bang away at let's say a 99.5% machine that seems to be in most folks best interests.
Vpfree2 The D
And for those who wonder why I don't just play poker all the time, I typically am on vacation with friends who don't really like to play that much poker.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
That sentence is absolutely true.
But there are other games where it isn't so clear --- such as Deuces Wild pay schedules.
VpFREE2.com is one of the most valuable weapons in a video poker player's arsenal. The site plays host to game listings at every major (and minor) casino in the world, so you can easily find 100%+ opportunities and take advantage of them. I am a 5th generation family farmer from West-Central Minnesota. The recent interest in food, combined with a large amount of 'misinformation' has driven me to start this channel. Give our Las Vegas slots a spin! Play twin river casino. We have more than 1,100 ticket-in, ticket-out slots, video poker and video machines, including traditional games like Double Double Bonus, Bonus Poker, and Deuces Wild.
For the Majestic Star 1 and 2, which I monitor, 13-4-3 bonus deuces does appear a number of times in the vpfree2 listings because Atomic Fever, Dice Fever and Double Super Times Pay versions are all over 99%.
Progressives are an interesting issue. The Majestic Star has a $1 progressive with the best base game at 98.12% (9-6 TDB). Because the feed rate is 1% this bank is often over 99% so it is listed. The 25c progressive is similar but the feed rate is 0.8% with the best base game at 97.4% (8-5 BP Dlx). Usually this game is under 99% so I do not list it but I have played it at just over the 100% level.
As to all the new unusual games, THANK YOU Wizard and Gary Koehler and everybody else for all the help analyzing those games.
I still have not got a clue about 'Split Card' video poker.
I strongly disagree.
VPFree2 is run by volunteers. To do a good job of monitoring--- even limiting yourself to 98% or 99% games --- requires a very large amount of knowledge. Making sure you know every pay schedule for every game multiplies the knowledge needed several fold. And do you consider nickel single line different from nickel Triple Play?
I would be qualified to monitor a casino for over-99% games --- not that I'm ever going to volunteer --- although doing a perfect job would be very difficult. I am nowhere near qualified enough to know which nickel deuces wild game returns 96.3% which would make it reportable because the other nickel deuces wild games there only return 96.1%.
Especially if you include all of the new variations --- WOO website lists maybe 200 video poker games --- for each denom. Many of those games come in dozens of game types (i.e. JoB, BP, DB, DDB, TDB, etc.), each with their own variety of pay schedules within that game type. That is MULTIPLE THOUSANDS of different games+types and several have five or six different pay schedules. And you have to know them ALL because in any given casino a 94.3% game might be the best for a particular denomination.
On some All Star Poker machines, with separate tabs for perhaps 15 different game types (such as Ultimate X, or Quick Quads, or Multi Strike, or Trade Up Poker, or Ten Play, or Super Times Pay, or Double Super Times Pay, or blah blah blah. Each of these tabs offers several games for each denom. All told, maybe 300 different games ON ONE MACHINE. If you're knowledgeable about video poker, it's very possible to quickly conclude that all of these are less than 99%. If you have to record all 300 of them, and compare each one with other machines around the casino, you're talking about a BIG, BIG task.
Even if he took all his notes with him, I suggest Shack would have a devil of a time listing the returns of the best return for every game type for every denom for a large casino. List of horse betting sites. And even if someone like Shack COULD perform that task, it's an unpaid position and things change and no matter how conscientiously you do the job, somebody will want more.
Not to mention that if you're spending that many hours checking machines and recording results, your actions will be noticed and several casinos will have security run you off for this. With maybe a little backrooming thrown in along the way for good measure. Conceivably a player could lose his welcome at a casino for providing a free service to a bunch of people he's never met, never going to meet, and who will be dissatisfied with whatever he comes up with.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
I just dislike how they only try to report the best paying games and leave out other lower paying games ESPECIALLY if they're a higher denom that's not being recorded. I get its a volunteer job, but it creates this notion that this casino doesn't have X denom games (which IMO is more important than good paytables).
Vpfree2.com
Vpfree2 Wynn
IMO VPfree should go away.
I realize we have different perspectives but I'll respectfully disagree.
In my case I get to be in Vegas for maybe 80 hours at a time at most. I typically play -EV games ( I believe I am lifetime ahead at real poker even though the casino makes money on the games I play in ) but at least with VP Free I can allocate most of my video poker time where I have more of a fighting chance. I'm sure for pros having more information available to the public is annoying but if it causes some players to go to places they wouldn't otherwise visit to bang away at let's say a 99.5% machine that seems to be in most folks best interests.
Vpfree2 The D
And for those who wonder why I don't just play poker all the time, I typically am on vacation with friends who don't really like to play that much poker.
You don't need to know the payback %'s to see a casino offers 9/5 DDB UX or 9/6 JoB MS.
That sentence is absolutely true.
But there are other games where it isn't so clear --- such as Deuces Wild pay schedules.
And I wasn't exaggerating when I said there can be 300 or more games on one All Star Poker machine. that's a LOT of recording of information, transcribing it, and checking back and forth when you find similar games on other machines in a casino. And the Super Star machines have a somewhat overlapping --- but not identical --- list of possible games.
Asking people to pay for information on vpFREE2 isn't going to be successful. And the ones who want the info for free are always demanding more.
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